tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post3377855496101315992..comments2023-09-11T08:30:08.843-07:00Comments on Life Training Institute Blog: Thoughts About 180 [Scott]SKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01905606527143286458noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-31875273258540911512011-10-11T01:14:01.490-07:002011-10-11T01:14:01.490-07:00Hey Scott. Thanks so much for this review.
Anoth...Hey Scott. Thanks so much for this review. <br /><br />Another issue that might be brought up is that it seems Comfort wants to establish an <b>exact</b> parallel between the holocaust in Germany and the abortion holocaust. No doubt there is an abortion holocaust occurring, but it seems problematic when we try to parallel this too much with the Jewish holocaust, e.g., some could wrongly draw the conclusion that we are morally justified in shooting abortion doctors just as soldiers were justified in shooting German soldiers in WWII.<br /><br />What are your thoughts on this?Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16436136389787730133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-81001793332340934742011-10-03T18:38:12.011-07:002011-10-03T18:38:12.011-07:00What about very high risk pregnancies, but where t...What about very high risk pregnancies, but where the death of the mother isn't as certain? Even with ectopic pregnancies, there is a slight chance that the woman may deliver a baby, even though the odds favor a miscarriage or very heavy bleeding on the mother's part, possibly her bleeding to death. How much risk does there have to be to the woman to justify her having an abortion? And would these arguments work for a 2 year old? For example, what would we say if a mother sacrificed her 2 year old to save her own life, especially if there was even a slight chance the 2 year would live?Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-23389001703107905782011-09-30T06:44:18.339-07:002011-09-30T06:44:18.339-07:00Christopher Kaczor on ectopic pregnancy: "[T]...Christopher Kaczor on ectopic pregnancy: "[T]he fact that some medical procedure brings about fetal death with certainty does not mean that it is intentional or direct abortion. Similarly, the removal of the pathological tube along with the human em-bryo (salpingectomy) also causes certain embryonic death, so the certainty of death by no means indicates that the procedure is intentional abortion."<br /><br />You can read his article here:<br /><br />http://myweb.lmu.edu/ckaczor/ectopicpregnancyLinacre.pdfSKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01905606527143286458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-34015237783951617152011-09-30T06:21:44.131-07:002011-09-30T06:21:44.131-07:00The Other Alice,
In an ectopic pregnancy, the ...The Other Alice, <br /> In an ectopic pregnancy, the life of the mother and child are in danger if nothing is done. They are both going to die due to the pregnancy. Therefore, it is justified to save the mother and terminate the life of the child.<br /><br />Your analogy of a burning car is deficient. For in an ectopic pregnancy, you cannot simply save the child. The fetus at that point has no viable environment to thrive in. However, you could save any one of the passengers. You don't have to shoot one to save the other. In an ectopic pregnancy, you do have to necessarily terminate the pregnancy (terminate the child) to save the other.kpolonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-78579086918511415752011-09-29T20:51:46.905-07:002011-09-29T20:51:46.905-07:00Hey, Scott; this is a very thoughtful review, and ...Hey, Scott; this is a very thoughtful review, and kudos for standing up for life. I do have a few thoughts to share; I don't want to be a wet blanket, but I would say a few things about your concerns. <br /><br />I do know that Comfort didn't just conclude that the younger generation is ignorant of Hitler just by the shown interviews on the movie. I know they've received letters from other folks saying the same thing, and that some people they talked to didn't want to be taped. Overall, today's youth are ignorant of a great deal of world history. I don't recall the statistics exactly, but a great deal of public school students couldn't place the Civil War in the correct century. <br /><br />Personally, I think that the reason the big-wigs won't "convert" to our position is that they love their sin, and will only use big words and evade the true questions at hand to justify it. The arguments Comfort provides in the film are logically sound, and I think that 180 is also geared toward the average Americans, so that anyone can understand these issues. They've initiated a big project to get it into the hands of as many people as possible. <br /><br />Also, in the film, Comfort didn't present 'It looks like a baby' as his proof that it is a baby. If you recall, he asked folks, 'Do you think that God knows when life begins?' He pointed out that a 6-week old fetus has a beating heart. Now, the question that I would pose to a pro-choice person is, "If life does not begin at conception, when does it begin, and what are the criteria? How do we measure life? What is the magic event, besides conception, by which we can be absolutely sure that at this moment in time, now it is a life?" A fetus is a child, just like an infant or a toddler is also a child. <br /><br />Comfort didn't ask if the individuals if they would 'vote pro-life,' he asked if they would ever vote for a candidate who is in favor of abortion. <br /><br />Your question regarding ectopic pregnancies puzzles me a little; you ask if it is always wrong to kill innocent human beings. Yes, it is always wrong; why would we suddenly call this into question again because of difficult circumstances? If there was a burning car with two people inside, and I could only pull one out of the fire, would I be justified in shooting the other person just because I couldn't take him out with the other? No! Plus I would have to pose this question... <br />what kind of mother would allow the doctor to kill her baby to save her own life? I realize it's a threatening situation, but have we forgotten the protective role of the mother? How about the father? Why don't we rather hold the position that we will do whatever is in our power to save both lives in danger, and we will appeal to the Almighty for His intervention? <br /><br />Maybe these questions are just rhetorical, but could they in some way mellow your concerns?The Other Alicehttp://asinamirror.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-63191652895967691342011-09-29T15:57:23.516-07:002011-09-29T15:57:23.516-07:00Thanks for weighing in on this one, Scott. I was ...Thanks for weighing in on this one, Scott. I was wondering what your take on it would be.Kris Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14410644730123690585noreply@blogger.com