tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post3917601722229522198..comments2023-09-11T08:30:08.843-07:00Comments on Life Training Institute Blog: Pro-Life and Pro-Capital Punishment [Aaron Brake]SKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01905606527143286458noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-76087965767143459462016-03-01T18:55:45.621-08:002016-03-01T18:55:45.621-08:00Jen - the position to justify abortion in the case...Jen - the position to justify abortion in the case of the health of a mother, if you will, is inherently pro-choice because you don't have to kill the child for 2 reasons: 1) There's no guarantee that God won't intervene or the mother will die; 2) The mother can choose to give her life for the baby. As such, it's a choice to abort the child. People can couch this as a "pro-life caveat" but it's simply limited pro-choice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-41935613794729629642016-01-09T19:44:53.010-08:002016-01-09T19:44:53.010-08:00Excellent post and response, Aaron.Excellent post and response, Aaron.SKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01905606527143286458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-46011984251641713722016-01-07T17:13:35.336-08:002016-01-07T17:13:35.336-08:00Thank you Jen for your comment. My intention is no...Thank you Jen for your comment. My intention is not to disparage in any way those pro-lifers who oppose capital punishment. That is why the final point above was included. Rather my intention was only to show there is no inconsistency between being pro-life and also supporting capital punishment. Whether or not capital punishment is morally permissible would be another topic and beyond the scope of my purpose here.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08368231189912740927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-26387279762639851972016-01-06T15:23:43.454-08:002016-01-06T15:23:43.454-08:00This is good, but I think the third point is mista...This is good, but I think the third point is mistaken. I don't think it follows that "if A and B are inconsistent, then not-A and not-B are likewise inconsistent." A pro-choice person could hold that killing persons is always wrong, so capital punishment is wrong (not-B), but unborn human beings are not persons and so killing them is not necessarily wrong (not-A). They could at the same time think that the pro-life claim that the unborn are persons deserving of protection (A) and the claim that certain other persons (those guilty of capital crimes) may be executed (B) are inconsistent -- given, I suppose, the assumption that killing persons is always wrong, which they may mistakenly attribute to the pro-life advocate. So, the pro-choice advocate is wrong but not necessarily inconsistent. Paul Starkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775355179818904049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-87103905135319453262016-01-06T13:28:35.147-08:002016-01-06T13:28:35.147-08:00"At will" is bad phrasing. I just mean, ..."At will" is bad phrasing. I just mean, killed when they are not posing an immediate threat, with no legal consequences (or even under the aegis of the legal system, as with the death penalty).Jen Rhttp://www.allourlives.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-20399935444232422972016-01-06T11:46:51.751-08:002016-01-06T11:46:51.751-08:00No one is arguing that anyone should be killed &qu...No one is arguing that anyone should be killed "at will". Why even bring that up?Restore-DC-Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17478857915379063106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1442827238174603755.post-63809439350037552622016-01-06T07:21:22.862-08:002016-01-06T07:21:22.862-08:00You call the "the pro-life syllogism," b...You call the "the pro-life syllogism," but it doesn't represent all pro-life thought. For some people, P1 is "It is wrong to kill a human being." There's usually what you might call P1.5, which says that killing can be justified if it is necessary to save one's own or someone else's life. But not all pro-lifers believe that we get to designate "non-innocent" people who can be killed at will.Jen Rhttp://www.allourlives.orgnoreply@blogger.com